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Civilized to Death

By: Christopher Ryan
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The New York Times best-selling coauthor of Sex at Dawn explores the ways in which “progress” has perverted the way we live — how we eat, learn, feel, mate, parent, communicate, work, and die — in this “engaging, extensively documented, well-organized, and thought-provoking” (Booklist) book.

Most of us have instinctive evidence the world is ending - balmy December days, face-to-face conversation replaced with heads-to-screens zomboidism, a world at constant war, a political system in disarray. We hear some myths and lies so frequently that they feel like truths: Civilization is humankind’s greatest accomplishment. Progress is undeniable. Count your blessings. You’re lucky to be alive here and now. Well, maybe we are, and maybe we aren’t. Civilized to Death counters the idea that progress is inherently good, arguing that the "progress" defining our age is analogous to an advancing disease.

Prehistoric life, of course, was not without serious dangers and disadvantages. Many babies died in infancy. A broken bone, infected wound, snakebite, or difficult pregnancy could be life-threatening. But ultimately, Christopher Ryan questions, were these pre-civilized dangers more murderous than modern scourges such as car accidents, cancers, cardiovascular disease, and a technologically prolonged dying process? 

Civilized to Death “will make you see our so-called progress in a whole new light” (Book Riot) and adds to the timely conversation that “the way we have been living is no longer sustainable, at least as long as we want to the earth to outlive us” (Psychology Today). Ryan makes the claim that we should start looking backwards to find our way into a better future.

©2019 Christopher Ryan (P)2019 Simon & Schuster
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I couldn't stop listening.

Thanks to Chris Ryan for writing this.

You confirmed deep suspicions in my psyche that something was off about how I was raised, how life is planned, and how I relate to others. I don't need drugs or therapy to numb me out. I need the kind of therapy, relationships, and lifestyle that brings me closer to my natural state. As I've been doing this over the past couple years, my depression has waned, my anxiety has lessened, my discontent has subsided more and more. I am much happier eating an avocado than crembule. Happier with a beach bonfire than a loud club. More at peace with a hike than with the treadmill. We need the message in this book of simplicity, of acceptance of our nature, and the acknowledgement of our animal nature. These don't need to be damned, but understood and celebrated. Hopefully we all take the wisdom of taking a step back from all this "progress" to see what we have lost in the process.

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Congintive Dissonance

While the premise of the book is excellent, the pessimistic view of the modern world is down right depressing. I agree that our genetic make up has not yet caught up with the modern world. But the author, while condemning civilization, proposes “solutions” to society’s ills via left wing big government programs that only “civilization” can provide. So he offers more “civilized” solutions, yet whines about modern society? Cognitive dissonance much? I bought this book to read a critique on modern civilization and not to read some anti-free market, anti-rich, socialist rant by some rich author from California. Note to the author: people can cooperate in a free market society. Denmark is one of them.

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Brilliant

The one negative review I have seen was written by someone who clearly hadn’t made it to the first chapter because Chris patiently and eloquently walks through all possible angles and perceptions of what he is discussing. This is a great book for our current crossroads and important listening/reading for locusts and grasshoppers alike.

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Littered with misrepresentations/misrepresentation

This is the first review I have ever written in 8 years of using Audible. I have a PhD in psychology from a large well-respected state university. As such, I'm well-positioned to spot the many misunderstandings and misrepresentations of the psychological literature cited in this book. They're all over the place. Honestly, I'm amazed how Ryan, who apparently earned his PhD in psychology from Saybrook University (a largely online program based in San Francisco from what I can tell), could so butcher the literature he cites in this book, without it being intentional. Skip this one. This isn't science. This is a polemic based on cherry-picked data and a poor understanding of actual science. You can hear in his narration that this man has an ax to grind. Scientists, at least good scientists, don't grind axes.

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Waste of a credit ‼️‼️

I believe this could be the authors self portrait on the cover , he's literally written a book by a monkey for other monkeys , you'll need to find a jungle in some third world and live in their jungle to be happy with this attack on civilisation , most people in the 1600 till the start of the industrial revolution were dead before 40 or at least considered lucky to survive child birth due to disease and starvation , and just for the record all the great civilizations collapsed from the inside but that's a whole other subject your blind to , Enough its crap ...

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  • 11-25-19

Non-stop ranting with no practical solutions

I could not even come close to finishing this. I get it, things are bad, but rather than beating the reader over the head with incessant rants and complaints again and again, I would have liked to hear some practical solutions sprinkled in the mix. Maybe the author does so at the end of the book but honestly, I couldn't stomach the read long enough to get there.

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A Book that make you rethink life

Civilized To Death is an amazing book! Each chapter, after chapter kept me engaged, and interested in learning more of the reality of our past, and how our society control us. However, there were times in this book that I completely disagree with the author, but regardless, I appreciate it thinking. I would highly recommend this book to everyone!!!

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Half-Baked Rousseau

I thought Sex at Dawn was one of the most insightful books I've ever read, so I was willing to stay with this one until the end, but it's terrible. Ryan extrapolated way too much from his expertise and passed on Sahlins and Diamond in an uncritical and hyperbolic way. Too bad.

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We need to think deeper about our own Zoo.

This is a book I have been looking forward to for years due to Ryan's podcast and it did not disappoint. Ryan has produced (and narrated here) what I imagine will be the cause of a very big ripple in Western culture. We are in the midst of a meaning crisis with some symptoms of the crisis being a toxic divisive political circus, mass distraction through consumerism, and environmental destruction. Recent books like this one, "Tribe" by Sebastien Junger, "Lost Connections" by Johann Hari, along with evolutionary theory (and some might say common sense) point to the possibility that the cause of our meaning crisis may simply be the fact that the meaning and purpose we all need to thrive may be found by trying to live in accordance with our nature as a social ape who craves acceptance, belonging, and a collective to whom we as individuals can contribute to the wellbeing of.

To nit pick on some issues I had due to my current knowledge base and subsequent biases I docked a star each for Story and Overall. To provide some balance to a few of the brilliant arguments put forward by Ryan here I would highly recommend curious people who liked this book to check out "Stubborn Attachments" by Economist Tyler Cowen and also "The Beginning of Infinity" by Physicist David Deutsch.

Bravo Chris. This is an astounding piece of work that is very much needed.

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Chris has been my involuntary mentor for years.

I'm so glad CTD finally came out. Having listened to all of his podcasts I already knew his shtick, but hey. Still refreshing. Also, I'm glad he personally recorded the reading. I'm impressed, brother.

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  • Jack
  • 10-29-19

This book is life changing

I wondered why at 23 I still felt trapped, inadequate, not good enough. But this is the message our modern world drills into us. Work more, consume more, chase money, chase power, more more more. So this is moment I decide to go back to what matters. To live on purpose. To not live to work. To be human

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  • Roberto Miguel
  • 10-01-19

Absolutely outstanding.

Simple and clear. Outstanding work Doc. I have followed Dr Chris Ryan for while now and his take on life has changed my outlook in so many ways. Thank you for that.

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  • Paul d.
  • 03-20-20

awful

Such a waste of time. incredibly negative outlook. Do not bother buying this book. Feel worse than before listening to it

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  • Anonymous User
  • 01-20-20

Utterly enthralling. This makes my all-time top 5

Erudite and engaging without the pomposity of most academic tomes. I can't stop talking about this book.

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  • seardin
  • 07-11-20

An interesting view but not the whole story.

Some interesting points about what we can learn from hunter gatherers but completely ignores the astonishing progress made in recent times. If you read this be sure to also read Hans Rosling's Factfullness so you are aware of the other side of the argument.

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  • catherine jeffrey
  • 03-31-20

c19 : Read during selfisolation from corona virus

haha well I now think civilisation is a pretty good thing Christopher Ryan.

When you are cut off from it you star to appreciate the finer details of what made life in London with its fast public transport, meuseums, art galleries, dating in romantic restaurant and music festivals in Hyde park so extraordinarily CIVILIZED.

c19 is hell of a virus.

Appreciate westerner civilisation.

I've had a tiny taste of life without it and it even that was hell.

This book is well written but wow did I disagreed with most of it sitting indoors with food and essentials running low during self-isolation from covid 19.

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  • Neil Green
  • 09-18-22

Great book.Should be listened to by everybody.

This book is a real eye opener about our past and present. The writer juxtaposes optimism and pessimism about life on earth , challenging current perceived wisdom successfully. Well narrated by the writer.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 07-09-22

Well recommended!!

Laser-sharp, broad and deep insights about us and our journey through self-harm and utopian future to come.

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  • Ross
  • 06-26-22

outstanding

terrifying but eye opening. I'd recommend to anyone and hope the new generations hear it

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  • Edward O'Dwyer-Smith
  • 05-18-22

Back to the Past in the Future

Great conclusion. I'd love to see some references for other writers talking about how to rewild and hunter gatherer your life up.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 12-19-19

Chris , you’ve changed my life

When I first listened to you on Joe Rogan’s podcast I hated you - you touched every nerve of my fears and insecurities surrounding my relationship and femininity.
As I caught myself in the act of switching off the podcast , I stopped instead and decided to shore up my courage and continue to listen . I am profoundly grateful that I did . The more podcasts I listened to with you and Joe and Duncan the more I couldn’t help agreeing with so much of what you say.
I have now finished Sex at Dawn and now this incredible book , Civilized to Death and it has given me a great insight into how we interrelate and the cognitive dissonance suffered by so many of us living in this ‘civilized’ world.
I don’t know how to thank someone who has probably afforded the general populace with the two biggest paradigm-shifting works of all time , so...

Thank you x

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  • Thomas
  • 11-03-19

incredible

no non fiction book has made me question everything I know than this masterpiece.

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  • MrGherkin
  • 11-30-19

Listen, for it might change you.

A confirmation that this inner dissatisfaction is nothing to be ashamed of. Thank you Christopher

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  • Rob
  • 11-05-19

Asking hard and interesting questions

It was great. Deeply interesting, revealing much about the human condition and our origins. This is then used to explore the ways our present fails to live up to these truths. I found the writing style to be informative and entertaining, as the author has a many moments of witty word play that kept me engaged. Definitely worth your time even if you don't argee with the conclusion. The information and ideas explored in the book are valuable and raise questions worth asking and answering.

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  • Michelle
  • 12-01-22

like a 9 hour Ted talk, which I liked.

I love Christopher Ryan's reading, particularly for this style of non fiction, having the author read adds a natural passion via intonation that works.

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  • Linda M. Cockburn
  • 11-27-22

The Second Listen

Narrative non-fiction at its best. Wide-sweeping, insightful, funny, hopeful and wise. This is in my top ten NF favourites. A profoundly grounded voice of reason in unreasonable times.

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  • Nintendo Fan Old School
  • 09-16-22

Amazing perspective of the downward progress!

This was such a great book. I loved his voice, very engaging. Topics were on point, brought up great examples and perspectives. This book challenged and change my entire view of life as a human, woman and mother.

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  • Alex
  • 09-06-22

A Challenging and Fascinating Book

At first I found this book somewhat difficult to get into. It challenged many of my preconceptions and actually dismantled the arguments of some of my heroes (Steven Pinker in particular) but the arguments were compelling. By the end I was raving about it to everyone I know. Christopher is a writer, not an academic, so you could argue that this work isn't as robust as it could be but I think that's a mute point given the volume of evidence and sources cited. Highly recommended

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  • Caselka
  • 06-30-22

An essential for everyone.

Chris not only brings up important questions, but he also has a fairly neutral point of view. In mode cases, he allows the listener to take their own stance on the ideologies within this book. This book is imperative for everyone and should be a part of school curriculums.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 07-28-21

Good for the soul

I loved it! and everyone should read it and that is enough said so fuck your 15 word minimum Audible.