• Dark Age America

  • Climate Change, Cultural Collapse, and the Hard Future Ahead
  • By: John Michael Greer
  • Narrated by: Michael Dowd
  • Length: 6 hrs and 59 mins
  • 4.6 out of 5 stars (194 ratings)

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Dark Age America

By: John Michael Greer
Narrated by: Michael Dowd
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After decades of missed opportunities, the door to a sustainable future has closed, and the future we face now is one in which today's industrial civilization unravels in the face of uncontrolled climate change and resource depletion.

What is the world going to look like when all these changes have run their course? Author John Michael Greer seeks to answer this question, and with some degree of accuracy, since civilizations tend to collapse in remarkably similar ways.

Dark Age America, then, seeks to map out in advance the history of collapse, giving us an idea of what the next 500 years or so might look like as globalization ends and North American civilization reaches the end of its lifecycle and enters the stages of decline and fall.

In many ways, this is Greer's most uncompromising work, though by no means without hope to offer. Knowing where we're headed collectively is a crucial step in responding constructively to the challenges of the future and doing what we can now to help our descendants make the most of the world we're leaving them.

John Michael Greer, historian of ideas and one of the most influential authors exploring the future of industrial society, writes the widely cited weekly blog the Archdruid Report and has published more than 30 books including The Long Descent, The Ecotechnic Future, The Wealth of Nature, and After Progress. He lives in Cumberland, Maryland, an old mill town in the Appalachians, with his wife Sara.

©2016 John Michael Greer (P)2017 Post Hypnotic Press Inc.

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Nuclear

What could John Michael Greer have done to make this a more enjoyable book for you?

I know a lot about radioactive material and nuclear energy including how totally wrong the author is on the subject mater I know best. Sadly it makes me wonder about the rest of the book, which is a shame because I really wanted to like this as much as the authors other titles.

Always consult actual industry professionals regarding energy. Both Nuclear and renewable.

Any additional comments?

On make or break topics always be sure to gather information from industry professionals.

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A projection in to a future with less

I can't but commend the author for a logical and rational prediction of a future collapse that sounds all too credible to ignore.

Most things we have and enjoy require power. Nearly all the power/fuel is unsustainable and moreover coming to an end. What will happen when the honeymoon is over.

Fossil fuel is plateauing and will start to decline, alternative energy for the most part is a ruse, since the energy it requires to produce it pretty much offsets the energy it will produce. The only reasonable solution is to use less energy, which means hard work.

Unless the long awaited energy revolution, which has not happened yet, suddenly materialises we will have to face the fact that it will be too expensive and unsustainable to continue on the path of plenty and more.

The sad truth is we didn't need all of this, but now that we are dependant, together with the effects of global warming, we may have to endure a depression which will dwarf anything in recent history. It's too late for a seamless transition, but not too late to survive.

This book is a brutally honest warning of a future with limited resources. It is well written and convincing. Highly recommended for those that are falling on hard times, which will soon be most of us.

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Important

A difficult topic but it was really good for putting the things I'm seeing happen into context, both in ancient and recent history. Somehow, knowing this has happened before and will happen again helps me to know where to focus my attention, time, and resources toward living a good life no matter what scenarios are playing out on the national and world stages. Good advice and insight. Ended on a positive note.

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Right Idea, Wrong Reasons

The book starts saying civilization will fall, and here is what will happen after. It implies in early chapters that the cause is climate change. Then the rest of the book argues that all civilizations fall for the same reasons, and climate change is not one of them. The author discounts technology, does not discuss nuclear war. Over all, it's a stupid book.

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Important, but not easy to hear

I found this fascinating, depressing, discouraging and hopeful. All at the same time. John Michael Greer puts all the crises we are facing together in a way that makes sense and makes me think differently about the possibilities for the future.

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Loved it

Michael Dowd does an excellent job of pacing the reading, pausing here and there where necessary and describing the images and graphs simply and clearly, allowing my tech-addled attention span access to a great book.

John Micheal Greer's writing is, itself, very good; his use of language and familiar examples prepares the reader or listener as he approaches more complex ideas. Grim as the subject matter is, a genial tone still emerges encouraging others not to wallow in despair, but instead to get up and dust off, as the work won't do itself.

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Left leaning work

Unvarnished leftism and Marxism. Depth is skin deep and distortion of history. Speculative view of the future

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LESS starts here

Less Energy, Stuff and Stimulation will inevitably hit North America. Start your preparation now with this audiobook

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Civilization dies in darkness

Though the night is dark, dawn comes again.

Industrial civilizations reckless and myopic treatment of petrochemical energy and the consequences that will follow in the setting of the North American continent

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A waste of time

Yet another Jeremiad railing against technology, modern finance and current culture. His assertion that the system is in the throes of collapse is not backed up with quantifiable evidence only anecdotes.

A sustainable living dude that seems to argue that the only way to save the earth is to revert to the Stone Age?

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  • Neil Green
  • 06-09-21

An educated view of our future.

This is a book about our present and future predicament. It is a realistic portrait that does not try to sugar coat the problems we face nor to make them worse than they already are. Well narrated by Michael Dowd. A book that everybody should read.

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  • Michael
  • 12-16-19

Must read vision of the future.

Greer is wildly underappreciated. A realistic vision of the future even if you might disagree.

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  • Tenma13
  • 08-12-17

Great book, if not new territory for the author

Would you listen to Dark Age America again? Why?

Yes, It synthesizes the authors past work well and adds to it I already own a physical copy.

What did you like best about this story?

Honest, no-holds bar look at the current crises we face in the world

What about Michael Dowd’s performance did you like?

well articulated and a very listenable voice

Did you have an emotional reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?

I'm a long term reader of JMG so not especially with this book, however the first book I read "decline and fall' had a profound impact as it brought together many of my other interests.