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Dark Seduction: A Vampire Romance
- Vampire Royals of New York, Book 2
- Narrated by: Shane East, Mackenzie Cartwright
- Length: 9 hrs and 16 mins
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Publisher's Summary
Betraying the vampire king has deadly consequences. But what if you crave the punishment?
Charlotte...
Get in, get the intel, get out. And above all, don’t get noticed.
As a master thief, Charley D’Amico lived by those rules...until she screwed up and fell in love with her mark - a sexy, commanding vampire king whose cravings are as dark as his secrets.
She should be running for her life.
Instead, she’s running into his arms. Into his bed. Into his punishing, demanding mouth.
Bad idea? Definitely. But if anyone can help Charley take down her vicious uncle and keep her sister out of danger, it’s Dorian Redthorne....
Assuming he doesn’t kill her first.
Dorian...
For vampire King Dorian Redthorne, love and betrayal have always gone hand in hand.
Charlotte D’Amico is no different. Her dark, sinful seduction was all a lie.
Dorian should kill her. Tear the bloody heart from her chest.
But when she comes to him for help destroying the man who controls her life - a man working for House Redthorne's mortal enemies - there’s no way he’ll turn her down.
No way he’ll let her back into his bed, either.
How can he? He’s the immortal vampire king, and she’s a devious little traitor.
And traitors must be punished.
All. Night. Long.
Dark Seduction is the second book in the Vampire Royals of New York series, a dark paranormal romance featuring a commanding, dirty-talking British vampire king and the seductive con artist who might just bring him to ruin...or become his eternal salvation. If you love sizzling romance, dark secrets, and scorching hot vampires with British accents, you need Dorian Redthorne in your life!
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- Jennifer Marie
- 09-14-21
Hot vampire romance
We start off right where book one ends with Dorian being betrayed by Charley. Even though he has a hard time trusting her, he is still drawn to her and wanting to protect her. We dive deeper into Charley and Dorian’s story and learn a lot more about their families and their pasts. The heat between these two will melt your headphones. Shane and Mackenzie absolutely knock it out of the park with narration. Another great book from Sarah.
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- Amanda T
- 09-12-21
Loved it
I absolutely loved Dark Seduction… I felt the narrator did such an amazing job on this audiobook. They did justice on bringing the character to life. I could not stop listening to this audiobook and it had me on the edge of my seat wondering what was going to happen next
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- Lisa
- 06-11-21
Absolutely loving this trilogy
I’m so invested in this series now. When this book ended, I yelled out “Nooo”. I definitely need more. The narration for this book is as fantastic as the story.
Charlotte and Dorian have gone through so much and there is even more that they will have to endure. I love that Charlotte isn’t really phased by Dorian being a vampire. He was quite upset with her at the end of the last book but I knew that he wouldn’t be able to stay away from her. She is too engrained in his heart for him to let her go.
I can’t wait to dive into book 3. I need some answers.
As always, Shane East is beyond fantastic and I am truly loving Mackenzie Cartwright. These two are outstanding together.
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- Sophy Sorn
- 02-17-21
No!!!!
Omg god! You have got to be kidding me! The cliffhanger! Oh off to the next book! Shane and Mackenzie did an amazing job at narrating
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- Theresa Martin
- 01-28-21
Shane East is killing it w/the narration!
This picks up right where Dark Deception ends. Charley is falling for Dorian, and he's falling for her. Both in a twisted game of deception, lies, getting to know one another. Charley is pressed by her uncle Rudy to continue the plans for the heist of Dorian's home. While she's trying to keep Rudy at bay, assuring him the plans are moving forward, she can't resist spending time with Dorian the vampire king.
Dorian finds himself wanting to spend more and more time with Charley, even though he doesn't totally trust her. And when he finds out her ulterior motives for him, he's beyond pissed...and also hurt. He doesn't quite understand what's going on between him and Charley, but he's finding himself intrigued by her. But, being the vampire king means there's always something going on. So, in addition to courting Charley, he's dealing with other vampires, demons, wolves, shifters, etc.
There are twists at the end, that made me immediately buy the last audiobook in this trilogy. Shane East and Mackenzie Cartwright are so good narrating this series. They bring all the feels with this series. Shane has amazing range with this character, and I'm loving all the drama.
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- phillipa
- 05-04-21
Hot Hot Hot🔥🔥🔥
The characters come to life, jumping out of the story, taking hold of your imagination and fantasies. I have laughed and cried and been on the edge of my seat during the action scenes, I could not stop listening. The intimate scenes between the lead characters are second to none, leaving me wanting more. A beautiful, smart, strong but damaged leading lady falls in love with the King of the New York vampires. Enemies are everywhere but with True Love at the core, will they survive?!?
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- Sarah
- 05-21-22
OMG fantastic
Book 2 of the vampire Royals by Sarah Piper. This book is a continuation of the first one you find that Sarah Piper really likes to cliffhanger her book which I will admit I absolutely hate but because she writes her books so well I can’t find myself to dislike it enough to not carry on reading.
Stories are fantastic I really love how there is different faction for each group of supernatural like vampire, werewolf and Demon etc.
Theses books do have a big family feel and as the Redthorne’s have a lot of brothers but some are trying to defy the King and take over.
The audiobook book is amazing Shane East does a perfect voice for the Redthorne family but somehow makes them all sound slightly different and amazing.
Mackenzie Cartwright is fantastic as well and surprisingly does a great job doing the English guy accent for when she does her chapters.
I do wish it was narrated as duel so eash reads there only parts like Shane East doing the guys parts and Mackenzie Cartwright doing ladies parts.
Sarah Piper is a instant buy for me especially audiobooks because she has the best narrators
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- Loves 2 Listen
- 09-23-21
book 2 of 3
Going to start by saying the narration for this book is off the charts from these two but especially Shane East just wow! Great second book in the series, moves along at a good pace.