• Discipline Is Destiny

  • The Power of Self-Control
  • By: Ryan Holiday
  • Narrated by: Ryan Holiday
  • Length: 7 hrs and 17 mins
  • 4.9 out of 5 stars (2,219 ratings)

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In his New York Times bestselling book Courage is Calling, author Ryan Holiday made the Stoic case for a bold and brave life. In this much-anticipated second book of his Stoic Virtue series, Holiday celebrates the awesome power of self-discipline and those who have seized it.

To master anything, one must first master themselves–one’s emotions, one’s thoughts, one’s actions. Eisenhower famously said that freedom is really the opportunity to practice self-discipline. Cicero called the virtue of temperance the polish of life. Without boundaries and restraint, we risk not only failing to meet our full potential and jeopardizing what we have achieved, but we ensure misery and shame. In a world of temptation and excess, this ancient idea is more urgent than ever.

In Discipline is Destiny, Holiday draws on the stories of historical figures we can emulate as pillars of self-discipline, including Lou Gehrig, Queen Elizabeth II, boxer Floyd Patterson, Marcus Aurelius and writer Toni Morrison, as well as the cautionary tales of Napoleon, F. Scott Fitzgerald and Babe Ruth. Through these engaging examples, Holiday teaches listeners the power of self-discipline and balance, and cautions against the perils of extravagance and hedonism.

At the heart of Stoicism are four simple virtues: courage, temperance, justice, and wisdom. Everything else, the Stoics believed, flows from them. Discipline is Destiny will guide listeners down the path to self-mastery, upon which all the other virtues depend. Discipline is predictive. You cannot succeed without it. And if you lose it, you cannot help but bring yourself failure and unhappiness. 

©2022 Ryan Holiday (P)2022 Penguin Audio

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not about discipline

the book is about how much the author loves some baseball player and names off a bunch of numbers that mean nothing to you if you don't care about baseball. the second chapter opened with waking up early, and thats as far as I'll go, advice I detest. Picaso woke up at noon and stayed up till 4. he is one of the greats. Zuckerberg wakes up even later. As he puts it waking up early doesn't matter just put in work while you're awake.

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  • 10-02-22

Wow, Holiday has lost his touch

I’ve read all of Ryan’s work and generally I highly recommend. This one is just plain bad. Every now and again I am reminded of Ryan’s roots as an expert marketer with the ability to sell anything. This book underscores his ability to make the sale (based on title, past glory and following).

Do yourself a favor and do not waste your money or audible credit on this. There is little to no substance. A lot of fawning over Lou Gehrig and very little meaningful content. I wish there was a way I could get the hours of my life back that were wasted listening to this. Sad.

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Fairytale

Full of propagandistic fairytales of people who “always” and “never” did stuff in a heroic manner…

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Ryan Holiday has an agenda

I wanted to like this book and knew going in that Ryan is Democrat and highly political. I was hoping that this book wouldn't be political, since I hate politics and strong political closeminded viewpoints. This book was not only boring, but Ryan highlighted several democrat leaders that he found inspirational and of course slammed the other side...completely unfair and narrow minded. If the book was good, it could have tolerated it. Bottom line - Don't waste your time or money on this garbage!

Instead - I highly recommend "Self - Discipline" by Brian Hall...great read without the propaganda.

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once a great author,

Ryan holiday once was a great author, now he's just a leftist puppet. Nothing stoic about this dude anymore. I'll never pre order or even order another one of his books again. sad to say rip to another great author.

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I always reread (listen) to ego is the enemy.

Once a year I re listen to Ego Is the Enemy, as a way to get myself back in check. In turn, that has become a book I recommend frequently. Discipline is Destiny will be the second book I’ll add to my annual consumption to keep myself in check.

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Great Book, but Terribly Narrated

I'm a fan of Ryan Holiday's other books ("Ego is the Enemy" and "The Obstacle is the Way). The author had narrated those as well. But the experience of listening to him read this book was such a grating experience. If it wasn't for the substance of the writing itself, I would have given up trying to finish the book. Even then, the some of his examples that he chooses to highlight are a stretch.

You'd think that the author would know his stuff better than anyone else. However, on too many times to count, Holiday would pause mid-sentence as if he's trying to figure out what he wrote. I'm pretty sure he doesn't do this for dramatic effect because he stops in the most random part of the sentence.

For 7 long hours, his cadence is ALL over the place. He'll go really fast, machine-gunning the words at you. Without warning, he'll then slam on the brakes and painfully drag the words out of his mouth. Because of the extreme difference of his reading speed, trying to use the Audible speed option is useless. His "start-stop" style is so inconsistent that it feels like trying to closely follow someone at the grocery store who has an indecisive stutter step.

Varying your tone when talking keeps things interesting. But the way Holiday does it for 90% of this audio book makes a person want to physically cringe. He'll speak in an upright matter-of-fact manner, but then follow up with a tone of clingy desperation. The worst is when he finishes his sentence by quietly and inaudibly whispering a word for dramatic effect. You're stuck with the choice of either cutting your loss and moving on, or going back to endure him whispering into your ear once again.

Holiday actually does narrate decently, but unfortunately it's only for the last 16 minutes of the book. It's a shame they didn't pay someone else to read the book because the material itself was pretty good. Usually, I'd love it when the author narrates their own book, but this was so so very painful.

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Great listen, in moderation.

I enjoyed the majority of this book and the author’s sense of ownership. Sensed undertones of left wing favor, which is always a turn off. But I felt the book was well resourced and dove well into the characters, which it all tied together like a knot. Definitely a recommended book.

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Wisdom is ancient but it never get old!

Another compact bullet of a book from Ryan Holiday. It slaps one across the face, shines a light and does so with portraits that are as diverse as they are inspiring.

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Couldn't stop listening...

I would be shocked if you didn't find this book amazing! I couldn't stop listening. I finished the audiobook over 2 sessions. Just wonderful...

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