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Hellbound: Saga Online #2
- A LitRPG Series
- Narrated by: Adam Sims
- Length: 23 hrs and 46 mins
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Publisher's Summary
Damien’s new streaming career is in tatters.
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- David R
- 02-25-21
Direction of the book changed to just bad
So after waiting for this book to come out I am disappointed. Just so you all will know this book now follows 3 people, The MC, the girl, and the old enemy mage. However it is more the girl's story for some reason and less anybody else, she is basically the new MC. For what ever reason, she has seemed to have been turned into a moody, self absorbed, always angry, 10 year old child who only yells, and tells people they need to do what ever she says because she said so. Like 1000% more angry then the first book, and she is ALWAYS angry for some reason.
The old enemy mage turns out not to be a bad guy and his personality does a 180. These two interact together a lot and sometimes with the MC but there is more story about what they are doing (going after a legendary sword) then focus on the MC. Guess what?! even though there is over 2/3 of the book about this sword quest, the sword doesn't even matter to the story in the end.... So you had to listen to bickering and self righteous justification of how everybody (both the girl and the mage and the people the interact with like other guilds) just treats everybody badly and how everybody has the right to be moody obnoxious people. What is even more confusing is that the Mage becomes the "voice of reason".... Yea that super evil guy from the first book is now the most stable nice and dependable person who also cares about everybody even the MC.
You can skip every section with the girl and mage except for a like two times near the start of the book where they join up with the MC and you miss nothing. O.... and the MC's new class trainer can keep him from logging out and can torture him for real pain, reset his character to zero, can influence the real world, ruin his real world life, and take all his real world money away unless the MC, in both real life and in the game, worships him as a god and does everything he says. So yeah at that point you stop and just go wth. That is what you can expect from this book in the first I would say 14 hours. The ending wasn't that great but I won't ruin it if you REALLY want to read it after what I just explained.
On a good note the narrator was great and the new characters voices were well done.
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- Daniel
- 03-27-21
Loved the first, Returned this one
1/3 into the book I have to return it for my credit. Somehow a massively multi-player game allows someone to purchase an in-game city that is a bottleneck to upper zones and let's him hold progression captive.... No way he is paying enough to deal with the rage quit fallout to their bottom line. There is suspension of disbelief, and then there is that. Then, the ever supportive and helpful Lillian turns into a manipulative self-centered narcissist that has the emotional range of a psychopath. That is to say that any use of emotion is fake, but coldly calculated to cause a desired response. It doesn't happen all at once, but it happens fast.
I can't even read more after she decided that her emotionally abusive ex-boyfriend is more valuable to her and her goals than the MC.
Like others have pointed out, don't be confused. While the story is still told by the same character as the first book, she is the real main character somehow, and this book suffers for it.... What the hell is a med student with an internship doing playing a game like this for the hours she does when she does not make a living from it? Damian has a reason to play that much as he is a pro streamer... She has issues, and they may be worthy of institution.
Now to find another book and probably refund the first book so I never try to read this series again.
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- Joseph
- 02-15-21
Not as good as the first.
I find it incredibly annoying in stories like this when characters forget their abilities when it suits the plot - example Deameon charging into the fray in the annoying 'war scene' and forgetting he has stealth.
I also don't like the way the relationships developed. I found it incredibly unrealistic, especially since they didn't break under the strain. None of the characters have been friends long enough for that shit to pass muster.
Then there's the whole Lucifer nonsense. The author tries to insert stakes that would apparently stop Deameon from telling his new 'master,' to go and do one, but I didn't buy it. I found it incredibly galling to just listen to him speak, I'd imagine a teenager would have even less patience, especially quiet the nonsense the game pulled to add to the stakes.
Yeah, no.
Don't even get me started on the hardcore cringe pop culture references delivered weird the authenticity of someone who'd just read the words for the first time...
If I were to sum up this entire book it would be 'unsatisfying.' Pretty much every plot threaded ended in a wet fart for me. I'll not be continuing this series.
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- He who knows things
- 02-28-21
Lillian is annoying
Story is really good. I was definitely looking forward to this book and will be buying the next...... however Lillian is almost painful to read. She is annoying and almost constantly a selfish B**ch. I really hope her POV is minimisez or entirely absent in the next book.
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- Kaz
- 05-01-21
Just ok
I was very excited for this book and purchased the audio the day it came out. I had to set it down and give it another shot a while later. Overall it’s ok not good not bad.
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- Nikon
- 03-18-21
Completely ruined the series
Couldn't get a quarter through the book till it all fell apart, I found myself thinking how fast I would have quit and completely ignored the "friends" the main character had. The first book was great really looked forward to this book to be left completely disappointed bound to return and get a better storyline leaving the storyline at the end of book one
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- Joseph
- 02-12-21
With friends like these, who needs enemies?
Let me start this off with saying that I enjoyed this book. its got good action, a meaty plot and it expands its pov in interesting ways. But I do have a point I want to talk about a bit.
Yo, why is everyone so mean?! The POV characters in this book are all very aggressive/defensive personalities that meld together about as well as peanut butter and anthrax. They fight all the time, they never apologize, they say INTENSELY insulting things to each other and the one character the books work to build sympathy for blames everybody else for his problems.
This series is dying in the desert for a character that you would actually want to spend time with and I hope the author adds that in the future.
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- Tulandra
- 02-12-21
could have been better but is still good.
Narrator is very good.
There are way to many touchy feely moments that takes away the fun.
There are some things a pro gamer would never do.
But I still recommend this series.
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- Anonymous User
- 03-16-22
Quite a letdown
This series started pretty strong - the vaguely dystopian futuristic "real" world was used fairly effectively to create stakes in what would otherwise be just a story of a kid playing a game. The game itself was fairly generic, but Damian's unique position in it made THAT work as well. Lilian was very likeable, if cliched, and everything just sorta worked. Everything sorta doesn't anymore.
The author clearly had a fairly distinct idea of how things SHOULD, progress and what arcs the characters SHOULD have. The problem is that everyone arrives there artificially and through no experience or interaction that we ever actually see.
The book now revolves around three characters, up from the previous one. This can work when you read about multiple viewpoint merging into one narrative, but here the two stories seemed mostly tangential to each other, and the unlikeable characters didn't really do the narrative any favors. Let's explore them:
Damian - towards the end of the book, Damian is upset at Lilian for sidelining him. I am upset at the author for very much the same thing. Damian's story is very shallow, and us clearly the B plot to everything else that is going on. At the same time, the book treats it with way too much gravity. At one point in the book, Damian's mom notes that he does not seem to be having fun playing the game, and that seems very accurate. He's not having fun, and I'm not either. He's playing the game in crisis mode, but the crisis seems very shallow & convoluted. Damian also doesn't seem to grow as a person or change throughout the book. His skills improve but his personality does not. He seems very selfish & petty throughout, and when some heavy accusations are leveled against him early in the book, you think it's a set-up for growth, but the growth never comes. basically - Damian SHOULD be playing like his life depends on it, so he does, despite the stakes being low. He SHOULD lash out because he's stressed, so he does. By the end of the book he is apparently friends with Andrew & Lilian though it's not clear what changed to facilitate this.
Lilian - Lilian really got the short hand of the development stick. In book one she was portrayed as a bit too kind, and also clearly as a side character. Welp, she gets the A plot now. The author thought she SHOULD be more of a flawed, "real" character, but this ended up making her entitled and quite unlikeable. Everyone keeps either treating her with 0 respect, or treating like she's the best, or like she's a damsel in distress, and it somehow's all true - because her character is a complete mess. She can't do ANYTHING without Damian\Andrew, yet she is always rude and ungrateful. Then suddenly she is capable of galvanizing thousands of people to action, but also is the only one worthy of Excalibur, but also is a total asshole to anyone who slightly disagrees with her. It's infuriating to read her because she's just so erratic, and also never feels like she progresses through merit
Andrew - god, Andrew. This is just a completely different character from book 1. In book 1 his main characteristics were his cowardice and his selfishness. Now - he sacrifices himself for people, keeps a level head at provocation, charges headfirst into deadly battles. At this point it's really quite unclear why he acted the way he acted in the first book (or even early in the seconds). It's actually quite jarring. Andrew is like the worst person ever, then suddenly Lilian is in danger once, the redemption switch is flipped, and he's now smart, heroic & humble. The author thought Andrew SHOULD be redeemed, so that's what happens, even if it makes no sense for the character or plot...
Also Saga Online is a stupid, terrible game. characters gain insane powers for achieving the most menial and silly tasks. Lilian becomes queen of camelot by basically solving 5 easy riddles. It's insane. Also - what sort of MMO is sustainable when the first like 6 players to complete the big quests control the world, and it grants them power most players cannot possibly hope to match? The game just doesn't seem fun unless you're one if a few select elites.
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- Amazon Customer
- 03-16-21
Hard to finish.
Liked the old main character. The girl is annoying. It was weird that the other occultist kept being referred to as it. If you are not sure if "it" is a boy or a girl maybe you should use they. I had been thinking about the 1st book lately and was very happy for a sequel but this really is hard to get into.
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- Mr. Ir Pinch
- 06-17-21
Didnt get far
Only got about 6 hours in and couldn't take it anymore. I loved the first one but this has been painful. The characters changed so much in a really unpleasant way. Its a shame because there are aspects and mechanics that seem interesting but I just don't like the characters anymore.
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- Anonymous User
- 03-30-21
Not as good....
TL:DR; First book was great, skip this one and give the author a chance on the next book if there is one.
I waited so long for this book considering how well rounded the first book was, then came this book and I just couldn't bring myself to finish it.
The only reason I'm even writing a review for this book is because I liked the first one so much I actually listened to it twice,
Narration was great as always, the main problem was the direction the author decided to go down regarding Lillian's character. You could tell the author intended to portray Lillian as a strong character with supposedly great leadership skills.
All I saw in this book was constant aggression and belligerence mistaken for good interpersonal skills. Being hostile to everyone around you 95% of the time and bossing people around without providing any justification for your actions is not an indicator of any kind of strength.
It wouldn't even have been that much of a problem if her character had a small presence in the book but her POV's were probably near if not greater than 50% of the length of this book.
The stakes at the end were also nowhere near as believable as the first book even for a Lit-RPG series.
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- Martrix
- 03-03-21
book 2 and i still don't know what I think
Well book 2 and all the caricatures in the book for the first 3/4 of it are annoying irritating children. But the final quarter gives you a good roundup as with the last book. Im not trying to give anything away so it's all about my take on the book but if the next one has the same level whining/annoying it will be my last.
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- Gareth L.
- 12-31-21
Uncomfortable character development
All characters have had life changing, character building experiences in the first book. The kind of experience that matures and humbles you. These characters tend to yo-yo and sometimes completely regress into petulant children, teenagers can be insufferable but not to this degree. The story is still great and and the narrator is perfectly acceptable. Let's just hope the next installment mends the mistakes made in this one.
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- Amazon Customer
- 12-21-21
enjoyable but takes a while to get into
I found the pacing of this book to be a little slow to begin with, and it was hard to get over the main characters teen angst but after you overlook that it gets quite good, the performance was very well done.
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- Wolf
- 08-06-21
Great second book
If you loved book 1 you will love this one.
it was hard to imagine how the story could develop from book 1 but the author has done it really well, they have kept the real life side of the story and developed the characters both in and out of game which is great.
there are the occasional editing errors seem to have removed natural breaks when switching between characters but it is minor irritation rather than a deal breaker.
well read again by the narrator, top marks
looking forward to book 3 so get writing Oliver ;)
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- Chris
- 04-09-21
Bad tagline...
Having enjoyed episode 1, I went straight back online and bought part 2. Aside form the very misleading tagline (his streaming career is never 'in tatters'), I found this even better than the first instalment.
This time round we follow Damian's exploits as he both tries to fix some of the real life damage he did whilst on the run, deals with his new 'fan club', has to deal with the ever increasing issues of being a good guy playing an evil character and joins the fight against a rogue in game element trying to prevent progression.
Nice to see that Damian is put through his paces in his personal growth as well as in game - he is rightly taken to task for his understandable immaturity, but as with the first book he grows in both sides of the story.
Most definitely not wrapped up as in the first book and left (annoyingly) open for an as yet unavailable third round. I need to be able to carry on with this...
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- Azure Teal
- 05-15-22
I think I like this game
It’s growing on me more. I’m impressed that Oliver got me on Andrews side -I didn’t imagine a universe where that was possible but it’s done now. I like the out of game content as well and I can see directions that a next book can go. Praise be (hehehehe)
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- Mr_P
- 03-18-22
Lillian. Is. Exhausting.
Lillian is the new protagonist.
Damien is still there, but while I've not measured the time allocation, Lillian is the main focus.
She's bossy, she's abrupt, she's moody. She's exhausting.
Want to spend ~24hrs with that, while she circles around "maybe" getting back together with her ex?
I should have given up early and refunded.
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- G
- 10-11-21
Very good sequel and expansion of the world.
Ignore reviews that say there's too much real life stuff, that's very wrong was a perfect second installment to the Saga online series very interested to see where it goes from here. Worth a listen if you liked the first, I liked it better than the first.
As for the best reference in this sequel very easily, ...Here I am stuck in the middle with you.... ;)
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- Anonymous User
- 05-05-21
Fantastic Story
Excellent performance, great story and the pop culture and gaming references tie in so nice and subtly (sometimes). Can't wait for the next instalment.
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- Christopher Thomson
- 02-28-21
Superb Sequel
Amazing sequel to one of my favourite books ever. Book one of the most satisfying endings to a book ever written. Hellhound further develops the characters I came to love and hate in book 1 but in a direction I did not expect but enjoyed.
Seriously hope this becomes a long term series.
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- Aaron
- 02-13-21
Love the series, hate Lillian
This series has been really enjoyable, I usually don’t enjoy the litrpg style genre but this has been great. I just hate Lillian and her whole character, she was alright in the first book of not a little over bearing. But in this one she’s almost insufferable. Other than that it’s a great series and I recommend everyone get stuck into it and just ignore Lillian
4/5.
without Lillian 10/5
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