Bible quotes do not constitute actionable info

This book should have a disclaimer. For those of us who are not Christians, and therefore will get very little of substance from this work. Either that or the author should unpublish this work and re-write it, replacing the bible verses with information from well known organizational and business thought leaders. I cannot accept a letter written from Paul to the Corinthians a couple thousand years ago as evidence that my behavior in the workplace should change. My gospel is research and best practices. I'm sure the author means well, but he obviously lives in a world where everyone is Christian and therefore feels that this book has a universal appeal. For those of us who are not, it feels like we have been cheated.

77 people found this helpful

Challenging what leadership looks like

Honestly, what really helped me from this book is being able to understand that my identity is and never will be in a title. Everything comes from your influence and we need to understand what submission looks like in order to lead well. When you know who you are as a leader apart from any titles and authority, then you realize the very things that need to be worked on in order to grow. This book helped me see my leaders differently and really changed everything for the positive! This book is a must read for those that struggle with being a leader when they have don’t have a title, etc.

38 people found this helpful

A Voice Worth Hearing

I am not Christian. By any means. I grew up protestant, but that ended quickly--like age 7. I don't believe in organized religion by any stretch of the imagination, but I do believe in spirituality.

I also have read/listened to an ungodly amount of self-dev books.

Those two things being said, this is a great book. It is very Christian, and Mr. Scroggins--who is some kind of pastor at a huge church in Georgia, IIRC--quotes the bible persistently and at length.

Normally when I hear this kind of stuff you've lost me. I'm done. But Scroggins imbues his message with more than enough practical and secular advice that it's easy enough to side-step the Christian message here.

For me, what worked, was simply acknowledging his Christian beliefs as a way of making sense of certain management principles, and it worked for me to listen to the Christian parables without feeling the need to convert back to the religion.

The actual meat of this book is in Scroggins impressive understanding of the attitudes and practices one needs to effect change from any position within an organizational hierarchy. He knows his stuff, and believe it or not, a megachurch is a great example of an organizational hierarchy. It is one that is built, perhaps even more so than a corporation or business, on the strength of community and social connection--so it serves its purpose as an accurate backdrop for professional development.

If you are Christian and looking to make more of a difference from within the organizations that you are a part of, this is a must buy.

If you are secular or of another spiritual persuasion, and looking to learn how to best leverage your influence even when you lack the specific title to seemingly do so directly, this is still a wise purchase. Just don't let the Christian themes overburden you.

469 people found this helpful

This is a sermon not a book about Leadership.

This book is more of a sermon than a book about leadership. Disappointed. I wanted to listen about Leadership not go to church.

27 people found this helpful

Misnamed Book, Disappointing Content without Practicality

This book should really be named “Why to Lead When You’re Not in Charge.” Listening the first few chapters I kept waiting for the author to actually get to the meat. He spent the whole time persuading the reader why it is a good thing to take initiative to lead when not in charge, but the thing is, I believe most readers already agree it is a good thing and that’s why we picked up this book. We are looking to learn the “how.” Disappointingly, I completed the book and the author offered no practical tips on how to do that and really just spent the whole book’s length to explain the “why,” which is why I think the book was misnamed. If you don’t think it’s a good thing to lead, pick up this book. The author will fervently and passionately persuade you with all the benefits, but if you want to learn how to actually do it, this book offers no help in any practicality unfortunately.

161 people found this helpful

Wasn't what I expected, but pleasantly surprised.

I purchase the book thinking it was another cold exploration of leadership in a business environment. In truth it is a collection of sermons on leadership. You get the feeling that the author is giving a lecture rather than reading from the book. And yes it is a sermon. He quotes scripture and uses Jesus as an example of leadership. But please do not let that dissuade you from buying this book. The message is fantastic. Something we all can use.
The only issue is some sound tech/editing errors that you won't even remember by the end of the book.

121 people found this helpful

This book is in the wrong category!

This book started off OK but then all of a sudden it turns into a religious book.

11 people found this helpful

Restart!

What did you love best about How to Lead When You're Not in Charge?

It was easily listenable. It is from a Christian perspective but not overwhelming nor were there opinions forced on you. Scroggins life is in ministry and he does a great job on giving his perspective on leadership which is a Christian perspective. It is non offensive for a non Christian,--no fire and brimstone preaching, --it is a holistic look at work. Leadership books don't necessarily include the spiritual aspect of work. The perspective is founded in purpose and developing oneself to 100%. Where do you belong? I felt the book speaks to those who are younger who might not know how to behave or take action. It also speaks to those who are possibly stagnant in their career. It is a helpful guide to a jump start and look for a perspective shift.

What was one of the most memorable moments of How to Lead When You're Not in Charge?

I think in certain parts he deals with acceptance of the situation that is not going anywhere. Aims at diplomacy. Self evaluation and owning your part.

Have you listened to any of Clay Scroggins and Gabe Wicks ’s other performances before? How does this one compare?

No

Did you have an extreme reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?

Laughed

Any additional comments?

It would be nice to hear how he deals with extreme and very difficult situations. Like glass ceilings or discrimination gender bias. Not looking at very difficult issues did not take away from the book at all, it was just not in the scope of the book.

43 people found this helpful

Good message but REALLY preachy

I appreciated the message of this book, but I couldn't stick with it long enough to get any technique ideas for the apparent point of the book. That is because a few chapters in he starts to go deep into preaching fundamentalist religious views. Unfortunate. By the way I am Christian.

61 people found this helpful

misleading

I couldnt get through it. I think this is because it was a less than a subtle attempt at proselytizing. its themes kept falling back through a lens that seemed to say, all things are improved with a religious perspective.

The secular references were awkward. The author may very well believe that watching non Christian based movies are enough to connect you to a non religious person. I just wanted to say to him, it may alienate you from some of your church going friends but it really does nothing outside of that.

The descriptors like "this kid who looked like Tim Tebow mixed with a wrestler from the 90's" offered about all the imagery you're going to get. it was so oddly reserved, it lost its impact.

The narrator sounded like a 16 year old kid, fresh from mowing your lawn, knocking on your door to collect payment, realizing his similarity to Jack Mcbrayer. "Gee Mr., do I really sound like Kenneth from 30 Rock?" Friendly? Sure, but I'm probably not going to embrace a new way of living life (spiritual or otherwise) just
because someone is friendly.

I did the best could. got through most of chapter 4.
I don't challenge you to try and beat me.

Instead, I would recommend The Chimp Paradox: The Acclaimed Mind Management Programme to Help You Achieve Success, Confidence and Happiness
(Steve Peters)

12 people found this helpful