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Paul and Jesus
- How the Apostle Transformed Christianity
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Publisher's Summary
Historians know virtually nothing about the two decades following the crucifixion of Jesus, when his followers regrouped and began to spread his message. During this time the man we know as the apostle Paul joined the movement and began to preach to the gentiles.
Using the oldest Christian documents that we have - the letters of Paul - as well as other early Christian sources, historian and scholar James Tabor reconstructs the origins of Christianity. Tabor reveals that the familiar figures of James, Peter, and Paul sometimes disagreed fiercely over everything from the meaning of Jesus' message to the question of whether converts must first become Jews. Tabor shows how Paul separated himself from Peter and James and introduced his own version of Christianity, which would continue to develop independently of the gospel message that Jesus, James, and Peter preached.
Paul and Jesus gives us a new and deeper understanding of Paul as it illuminates the fascinating period of history when Christianity was born out of Judaism and became the religion we recognize today.
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- James
- 01-29-13
Paul or Jesus?
If you could sum up Paul and Jesus in three words, what would they be?
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As an author myself, I understand the intense desire to get a very important idea across to my readers. I have seen many writers start with an idea that they think is provable but by the end of their work they have steered off of the track and forgotten the entire purpose of their work.
This is not the case with this monumental work that James has penned here. He masterfully executes his attempt to expose Paul and what he has done to the world.
When I wrote my book, Leaving Jesus, I wanted to spend more time on Paul and his twisting of the Old Testament. I felt that I had done a good job in revealing what Paul had done but James ups the ante and peels away the layers of the Apostle Paul to uncover the problems with Paul's writings and actual thought processes.
James expertly draws on his previous writing to paint a portrait of Paul that is clear and vivid. Starting with Paul's twisting of Scripture and concepts he then transverses through his social interactions with the disciples. James spends much time on the way that Paul thought about and behaved toward James, the brother of Jesus.I thought I had understood Paul but by the time I was finished with "Paul and Jesus", I felt like I had met him.
This is the book that I wanted to write myself but thanks to James D. Tabor I didn't have to do so. James has made it easy to understand Paul and along the way, Jesus, the misunderstood first century Jewish Rabbi who's teachings are buried deep inside the New Testament overpowered by Paul's lies and tricks.
Thanks James for treading where few chose to travel, for not getting lost along the way and for returning to us with truth that will free many others.
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- Jon
- 04-28-15
A Telling Tale
Professor Tabor has been studying the works and philosophy of Paul for over 30 years. In straightforward prose and with a well-thought-out thesis, he describes the impact Paul's few letters have had not only on Christianity but on the whole of Western thought through the ages.
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- Michael LaFond
- 09-16-21
great book for advanced thinkers
top quality insight and analysis. respectfully revolutionary. interesting blend of tradition and important historical observation that changes how we see Paul and his mission.
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This was the best book on Paul to date!
Dr. James Tabor is one of my favorite scholars. He shows Paul as he really appears without all the orthodoxy. want to see one of the more radical, apocalyptic Jews with a mystical neo platonic view of the world with all his flaws? This book will change your outlook on the entire early church community.
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- Fran J.
- 11-16-20
I miss Doctor Tabor’s voice and cadence
In the Jesus dynasty he recorded the abridged version himself and although it lacked the transitional paragraphs of the original it was delightful to here professor Tabor speak in his own words. One can only hope he records restoring the abrahamic faith himself
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- Wendy Sprague
- 07-17-16
A thing is established on the witness of 2 or more
Not quite the same Paul I was taught growing up! Thought provoking, to say the least.
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- D. K. Parshall
- 07-31-16
Neo-pseudo-Orthodoxy thought of early Christian History
This is a book of conjecture which is not supported from the facts of historical Christianity. His arguments are similar to Bart D. Ehrman who purports the idea of many different Christianities and that what we have today is the triumph of Pauline orthodoxy and not an accurate interpretation of the true mission and significance of the person Jesus Christ. I gave four stars for performance because I like Robertson Dean.
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- George
- 12-02-16
Avoid!
While this guy sets himself up as a Pauline scholar, both his scholarship and his historical method are called into question by his treatment of the source material. Of the many problems I had with this book, the author's method of interpreting scripture is probably the most egregious. One of the best ways to interpret scripture is to allow the clear to define the unclear. Instead, the author not only elevates the unclear over the clear, he then marries those false suppositions to his own eccentric theories, then refers to the results as evidence. He assumes the most extreme interpretations of some of Paul's statements, then takes them to an Illogical conclusion. This creates controversy where there is none. There are a couple reasons an author would do this. One is arrogance, and the other is to stir up controversy so as to sell books. I imagine there's a little bit of both going on in this one. Avoid! Instead I would suggest reading N.T. Wright on the subject.
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- Jimma
- 06-27-22
Balance of Bible and history
I thoroughly enjoyed the balance of Bible with specific references and history, as available. The comparison of accounts in different parts of the Bible and other sources is compelling. The narration is one of the best.
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- KSH
- 03-06-22
Fantasy
I have tried to get through this book several times with no success. I was expecting a factual book even if I disagreed with it. What I found, however, was mostly fantasy with a few facts thrown in. The first fantasy that I found was the author's claim that God is reproducing Himself and that believers are being "impregnated by the Holy Spirit"; that they are "tiny, spiritual embryos." That is NOT what the Bible nor Paul said or even implied.
An instance of fantasy mixed with some truth is the idea that Jesus would never have said to eat His body and drink His blood. The author claims that since the synoptic Gospels were written after the letters known to be written by Paul (this is the mostly true part), that Mark, Matthew, and Luke put those words in Jesus's mouth. In fairness, the author says that this is his opinion, while also saying that it's where the evidence points. I'm quite certain that as I delve into this audio book yet again that I will find more on which I differ with th author.
I have always been interested in Paul, and I had hoped to find some truth, but I don't believe that I'll find it here.
The bottom line for me is if you believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God, as I do, then this book is rather frustrating. I intend to finish it this time by using it as a Bible study, looking up the Bible verses that the author quotes in my Bible and reading them in context.
If you don't believe that the Bible is inspired by God, and therefore without error, you may actually enjoy this book.
The narration was very good, but I did knock off a star because he stated the quoted passages too fast. That just means that I use the 30 second rewind a lot. No real problem, just annoying.