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- Siege of Terra: The Horus Heresy, Book 4
- Narrated by: Jonathan Keeble, Emma Gregory
- Series: Siege of Terra: The Horus Heresy, Book 4
- Length: 16 hrs and 48 mins
- Unabridged Audiobook
- Categories: Science Fiction & Fantasy, Science Fiction
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As the traitors tighten their grip on Terra, Rogal Dorn must marshal the Imperial hosts to weather the storm. But not all of the defenders will survive the onslaught....
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Dan Abnett returns to the Horus Heresy! Experience one of the crucial stages of the Siege, as Rogal Dorn and Horus match wits in a game of Regicide where the board is the Throneworld itself, and one wrong move could lead to utter devastation....
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The Traitor Host of Horus Lupercal tightens its iron grip on the Palace of Terra, and one by one the walls and bastions begin to crumple and collapse. Rogal Dorn, Praetorian of Terra, redoubles his efforts to keep the relentless enemy at bay, but his forces are vastly outnumbered and hopelessly outgunned. Dorn simply cannot defend everything. Any chance of survival now requires sacrifice, but what battles dare he lose so that others can be won? Is there one tactical stroke, one crucial combat, that could turn the tide forever and win the war outright?
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- Anonymous User
- 07-14-20
Saturnine AKA The Weakest Entry Thus Far
TL;DR: Poor dialogue, incongruent characterization, and overly high-minded writing make Saturnine the weakest entry in the series. Unfortunately some big reveals might make this neccesary reading.
As the series is written by multiple authors, inevitably there will be variance in the character portrayal and dialogue. However the prior entries in the series have done a commendable job in ensuring the characters feel similar in both action and manner of speech. Saturnine is a major departure from this trend and really detracts from immersion. This is the only novel in the series I actually had to ask myself if I should see if I could return it.
To begin, I'm no prude to be put off by coarse language, but part of what breathes life into the setting is the way the characters speak. The relatively little cursing makes the setting feel as if it's in a time long past while in truth being in the far future. When I hear Horus Aximand say "I love teasing the s#!% out of you.", it takes me out of the setting, not to mention just being weak dialogue and out of character. It feels too much like something I'd hear in our own time, not from the mouth of a 200 year old Astartes officer. It's a pervasive issue throughout the novel and it makes me wonder if the author bothered reading any of the previous entries to grasp the feel that had been previously established. Previous novels attempted to establish Abbadon as beginning to develop into the future warmaster of chaos, but it seems completely absent in this novel. Abbadon seems nearly an entirely different character. None of the proud disdain for the traitor primarchs, none of the decisive nature. He becomes a joke by the end, and while this may be enjoyable for those in the failbaddon camp, I prefer the more recent portrayals of Abbadon that Gamesworkshop has been going for. He's the future warmaster of chaos, he should be a strong, threatening figure. Certainly not throwing temper tantrums.
I could go on and on about instances of bad dialogue and out of character moments such as these. However I hope this at least gives you a vague picture of what you'll find in this book. If I loved 40k any less than I do, I'd have skipped the book. That said, there are some decent big reveals that I'd say make it neccesary to soldier through reading this novel. Hope the next one is a return to form. Should honestly just give the series to Guy Hayley lol.
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- Anonymous User
- 08-01-20
Please Dan, Read The Established Lore
This book disacknowledges and breaks several pieces of established lore set by authors such as Aaron Dembski-Bowden. Seemingly retconning events that occurred in stories such as The First Heretic and the Black Legion series. The life of Falkus Kibre leader of the Justaerin, and the scattering of the primarchs Mr. Abnett has suddenly tampered with. In Pt:3 Ch:5 he even says Kharn is 1st captain, Kharn was NEVER First Captain he is 8TH CAPTAIN. 8TH CAPTAIN KHARN FOR F**** SAKE.. Almost every fight that is to happen will suddenly jump to some unrelated scene, after about 6th time this starts to feel DRAINING. In addition to its incongruity this book has been sprinkled with modern day politics and terms which is unfortunate to see in a Warhammer novel. Abaddons characterization has simply fallen flat on it's face. Some of the strongest warriors in the entire galaxy (Death Guard and World Eaters), are reduced to mindless incompetent savages and simple disease carriers without martial prowess. They are treated as chaff and cut down as simply as basic mortals. Fulgrim is VERY underpowered and the fight with Dorn was lackluster.. Another disappointing entry to the Siege. Get your damn lore straight Mr. Abnett.. I will be reading Betrayer again to cleanse my palate.
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- Frank
- 07-13-20
Very much disliked
I've read/listened to a lot of Abnetts books and liked them but this one is not one of them at all.
Got about 5 hours in before giving up. Some sections are well done (Dorn, Sanguinius, Perturabo), but others just made me cringe (The sister of silence seemed to exist only to think about how strong certain characters are or fuel a side story that got on my nerves quickly.) Dissappointing since how much I liked the Sisters in the War on the Webway books and the 40k book Watchers of the Throne.
Also, the word "shit" is used A LOT in this piece when I've only ever heard it used in many other books maybe once. it's super glaring when characters who have never said it in past novels talk about the shit hitting the fan and such.
Disappointing entry in the Siege of Terra series and disappointing entry in Abnett's bibliography.
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- Linda
- 07-20-20
Fantastic performances but bad history!
Falcus Kibre didn't die on Terra. He initiated finding Abaddon and the Vengeful Spirit 10,000 years AFTER the siege, (now this has become a conflicting lore. Thanks , Dan ) and the 3rd with Telemachon Lyras did not take part in the siege; instead they raided the planet for slaves and supplies. (Black Legion book). I just wish the errors were not there, otherwise, I liked the book. Dan Abnet has been writing Warhammer lore for years and this has egregious mistakes.
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- RickyP
- 07-30-20
Ok but showing some flaws.
This one has some issues. It came down to three things. The first is it felt like the author was borderline inserting modern politics into it. With alot of weird talk about truth not being important and some real red flag words like "gender fluid." The second issue is that having a second narrator was very jarring and really shattered both the pace and story. Honestly I'm not sure why the choice was really made at all. I guess it was to show that the Sister of Silence was special. But it's a poor way to convey that. The third was the use of very modern terminology and curse words. Those thing can be ok, but in the series so far those things have been absent. This also makes it pretty jarring. So I guess it's an ok story, but the aide issues really get in the way.
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- Matthew
- 07-15-20
One plot problem
Loved it, my only problem is with a glaring plot issue...
Falkus Kybre didn't die in the Siege (Talon of Horus)
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- George Kilgore
- 09-15-20
Pure Loyalist Fan Service *SPOILER WARNING*
It's hard to feel desperate when the loyalists win on every page. Dan Abnett simultaneously kills off a plethora of some of the most compelling and interesting Traitor characters with little more than a page while protecting all the Loyalist characters with layers of plot armor. Meanwhile Rogal Dorn supplants Roboute Guilliman as the biggest Mary Sue of the Horus Heresy timeline. How is this supposed to feel like the epic struggle for Terra when every major engagement is won by the Loyalists?
Issues I have with book
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1. Entire book about the HORUS HERESY and not one appearance from HORUS.
2. The Mournival and the 1st Company are killed off entirely while the Imperial Fists etc. suffer minimal casualties..... that was the big climax btw. So you're just going to kill off the most elite and competent core of officers and warriors the Traitors have with a handful of loyalists because Rogal Dorn? You would think the greatest strategists the SONS OF HORUS have to offer would have planned for such a contingency?
3. It was a set up the entire time! Perturabo knew that the battle would be a trap and he would throw some of his most useful assets into a meat grinder for no gain. Because Perturabo the Siegemaster himself would make such a stupid move.
4. Traitor Primarchs are portrayed as little more than incompetent squabbling warlords. Say what you want about Fulgrim but from the beginning of the Horus Heresy he is touted as one of the best duelists and strategists of all his brothers. Just good enough to get his butt kicked by Rogal Dorn and be suckered into his whole legion defeated by a tenth of their number in Imperial Fists.
5. Dan Abnett uses the "saved just in the nick of time" trope TWICE in one fight. Get out of here. If you want a fight to be compelling someone of import needs to die or else its just a slapping contest. Thanks for making me read a fight that had no real ultimate consequence.
In Summary: If you love loyalists you will love this book because it caters to your side heavily. Dan Abnett if you by some chance read this stop resting on your laurels and take some chances in your writing.
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- Anonymous User
- 07-16-20
just wow, one of the best 40k books
incredibly good. emperor back story, primarch actions, scattering of primarch. must read book. cant waith for the next one
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- Coral
- 07-19-20
Battle and Battle Strategy
I enjoy a battle or 3 but I want characters I can feel for - motivation and direction. 3 chapters in and want I understand is basically the immortals are fighting and spending mortal lives for the past 3 generations - without care of humanity - to win but - they seem to have forgotten about all else. Which leads me to the view that someone should have given these immortals a video game and let the poor humans get on with living. I am returning this one.
There isn't really any attempt by author to even detail the battles - he saves time by tell you that only the best of the immortals can follow the details of the battle.
Jonathan's performance is great. I didn't get to Emma but that fine.
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- anusan
- 07-29-20
woow!!
Amazing! so far the best.
really good read. cant say more due to spoilers!
worth every penny
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- Rychard Harris
- 07-13-20
brilliant
Amazing best Horus Heresy book yet. The Siege of Terra series gets better and better.
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- robert
- 07-11-20
Saturnine
Great book highly recommend this .The story is Epic .sooo much action and I love the characters arcs in this .
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- Anonymous User
- 07-16-20
Superb!
Best book of series so far! Superb! Abnett is a genius! Well Done and can't wait for more!
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- The postie
- 07-17-20
Good as the rest
The story continues to build. You have listen to all the books in this series for it to make sense over all the bigger the guns the better.
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- paul sparks
- 07-16-20
Phenomenal book
This is a book that tells the tale of the great and glorious but also tells of the life and death of the common folk in the imperium, by far the best in the siege of terra books and also one of the best warhammer books so far
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- John doe
- 07-15-20
Holly terra!
has to be one of if not the best books in the series. so many great and funny moments. DAB has really out done himself.
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- jack
- 07-15-20
made me believe in man !
great build up and uplifting moments !
great character building to! new favourite characters!! 😁
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- mr m a french
- 07-15-20
outstanding!
the finest book released by GW. Great, story, well performed. had me hooked from start to finish. would highly reccomend.
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- Anonymous User
- 10-07-21
Warhammer 40k's Dream Team.
Abnett is at his scintillating, put-you-right-in-the-thick-of-it, insightful and philosophical best. Keeble is hands-down the most enthralling narrator of the 40k books (in my view). This pair, which has to be the 40k Dream Team, are at the top of their game in delivering one of the finest books of the entire series.
A special mention to Emma Gregory who, with her few short, wistful and heart-wrenching tellings of the story of a background character, somehow managed to steal the show away from Keeble.
Six stars!
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- roy mcintyre
- 07-16-20
Brilliant
Brilliant story as always with Dan's work. One of my favourite so far. A must read.
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- Bart Primrose
- 06-24-21
An absolute masterpiece
The best in the entire HH and SoT series. Best in the whole 40k universe. An utterasterpiece of tension, strategy, war, and intrigue. The worst part was when the credits came
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- Anonymous User
- 06-14-21
Best book I've ever heard/ read
This is by far, the best book I've ever read. I was captured by started to finish. I cried in some bits, laughed, yelled and was just plain shocked. The narrator is incredible, and Dan Abnett is just a master at his work.
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- Brad T Moore
- 02-16-21
Fantastic. Dorn is a badass.
Loved it. Best one yet. Makes me glad I'm a custodes player. Characters are great and I was genuinely shocked at some deaths.
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- Anonymous User
- 12-17-20
AMAZING!
had me hooked from start to finish , great author and narrators. best book in the HH series for me and I have listened to most of them.
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- Anonymous User
- 12-16-20
AMAZING!!!
one of the best 40k books loved it so much look forward to the next
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- Sean Mannix
- 11-08-20
epic
fantastic story very well crafted another amazing instalment from Dan Abnett the master of Grimdark
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- N. L. Fairfax
- 10-19-20
fantastic!
One of the best audio books to come out of the Black Library. The narration is amazing, and the story is detailed and fast paced.
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- Anonymous User
- 09-20-20
Amazing.
I wasn't sure what i was going to thing going into this. But by the Throne i was not disappointed. This really is one of Abnett's best works. Some of the revelations in this book will make you question everything you thought you knew about the 40k mythos.
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- Matthew Nagle
- 09-01-20
climax before the finally
love it brilliant narration by Jonathan and Emma working in random to catch the perspectives of two perspectives.
every story bringing to ramp up to the finial conclusions of the story.
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- Anonymous User
- 05-11-22
The beginning of the end
A satisfying entry in the Horus Heresy series that sees so many long-running storylines culminated. Loken, Garro, Sigismund, Abaddon, Khârn, and so many other favourites make their final plays in one of the most action packed editions yet.