Following a great premise, but gets long-winded

Would you try another book from Olan Thorensen and/or Jonathan Davis?

Yes

Would you be willing to try another book from Olan Thorensen? Why or why not?

Yes. He has some captivating ideas and does a good job developing a strong central storyline.

Which scene was your favorite?

The battle for Mooreland City

If this book were a movie would you go see it?

Yes

Any additional comments?

The first book was extremely intriguing. This one followed along that original, strong premise but got too wrapped up in explaining what and why characters thought or felt certain ways. I'm fine with a little overdevelopment of characters - made it through all of "A Song of Ice and Fire" as well as "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Fountainhead" and many other more "wordy" books. But this got to where it felt like over half the book was elaborating on how smart Maera Keelan is, and how smart Yozef thinks she is and what Maera thinks about how smart Yozef thinks she is, and how everybody else feels about how smart Maera is, and what she thinks about that. It gets really old and doesn't get anywhere with character development. Instances similar to this are spread throughout the book with various characters and it got frustrating more than a couple times. The central premise of the story is great. The development of Yozef's new ideas and their implementations on Cadellium is well done and thorough. The fight against the Narthani keeps me listening, as I'm in the middle of the third book currently. I think Thorensen has a wonderfully original idea for a series and most of it is solid story telling. Combining a primitive human world with space travel and the spreading of humans throughout the galaxy has almost unlimited potential for many differently avenues of story line. I hope he keeps it up but I could personally stand a little less personal thought explanation that doesn't lead to any better character development.

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women as second class citizens - again

Juvenile, absurd male fantasies played out as lead character becomes an omnipotent being of a backward culture. if you have the opportunity to make up a world, why the heck do you make-up one that subjugates women, has no indoor plumbing and so called good leadership doesn't care that people are exposed to harmful chemicals because "bullets are needed"?

There is no sci-fi in this book. Totally mislabeled. It's fantasy - juvenile , male fantasy. No thanks!

This book is full of terrible cliches and illogical foibles.

Where did all of the 5 star ratings come from?

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At last !

I've been waiting for a new author to take the place of H PIPER as one of my favorites of all time . I hope he's as prolific .

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A missed opportunity

I usually like sci fi/fantasy used as an exercise in societal examination but these books seem created as a canvas for a rather sexist author (is he Mormon?) to make sure everyone knows just how marvelous he is. The hardest points to swallow are a tie between the ‘see how kind and egalitarian I am even when it causes other people pain or discomfort’ moments and the ‘when Joseph says it, you just know it’s clever/perfect/funny/exactly correct’ phrasing (no joke, that’s almost verbatim) which is repeated almost every chapter when one person dares to question this messiah’s mad genius.

The adoration and fawning from literally everyone would have been acceptable had this book been a satire, but alas, no. Just everyone making sure we know how truly intelligent, fun, kind, innovative, generous, compassionate, strong, resilient, humorous, sexy, fair, courageous, bold, gentle, and disciplined this humble
average joe is.

Didn’t fully hate it, and not quite at full on contempt - More at an eye roll level. I consider the premise a missed opportunity. Ok if you just need background noise. I hope the author matures. Maybe he can hit the target next series.

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The story is a good follow up but ....

I enjoyed it. I did. Really. But I find many of the characters quite two dimensional, especially the women but maybe that's just my point of view. Certainly a story which charts the impact of a modern, educated man raised in the West on a backward society on another planet makes for an interesting read. I just didn't feel any great empathy for the characters themselves. I'm sure I will read the next when it comes out despite that.

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looking forward to book 3

Good story and just as good as the first book. the narator does a good job.

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I'm All In

The Pen and the Sword has rocketed the Destiny’s Crucible series to my top slot for 2017. Exceptionally good writing and masterful character development have transported my thoughts to another planet in another time. I now give a damn about what happens to the key people in these books. For me, this level of emotional attachment is more important than all the intrigue and action combined.

Speaking of action, Olan DOES ratchet-it-up in The Pen and the Sword. A small incursion is a defining moment in Book 1, while a full pitched battle is the apex of Book 2. In both cases, what delighted me was the intricate writing and tactical knowledge used by the author to bring these conflicts to life. The Battle scene in The Pen and the Sword is one of the best I’ve ever read. After reading more about Olan Thorensen on his web page, I saw the three letters SOG and knew that explained it all. Not only is Olan a great author, but he’s probably pretty much a badass too. That makes for a great mix!

One more thing I like about these books is ZERO fantasy. Sure, it’s science fiction, but they are 100% believable. These are REAL characters doing REAL things. As an Audible listener, I also encourage you to buy the Kindle version of The Pen and the Sword. It's much more complicated than Book 1, so being able to read along helps you better track clan names, key characters, and the many locations of Caedellium. Olan has also posted some Anyar Maps on his website which are also real helpful when understanding the strategy.

So, go ahead and spend a few credits as you will enjoy these books. Like all books, there are some dry spots, but this is all important backstory that helps the main storyline unfold. While not quite War and Peace, these are BIG BOY books, and sometimes you have to climb a hill if you want to see the full view!

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The Journey continues

Would you listen to The Pen and the Sword again? Why?

Perhaps years from now, but I just finished it this morning, so it is not a relevant question.

What did you like best about this story?

My gosh, all of it. The characters, the plotline, the intrigue, the structure. This is an outstanding series and this second book fulfills the promise of the first book. Building out the rationale, finishing some story arcs and starting new ones. A fascinating extension to the character and plot introductions from the first book.

Which scene was your favorite?

The battle scene with the Narthani at the end was very impressive.

Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?

As noted above, the last 3rd of the book is impressive in every regard.

Any additional comments?

This is a rich series, and well worth the investment of time ( as it is long, to be sure ). Brilliantly conceived, rich in detail and content, a stellar ( and consistent ) performance by JD, and more to come. Highly enjoyable, and completely credit worthy. One of the best of the year!

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Another Binge Listen

As others have mentioned, this is a book that is really hard to stop listening to (as is volume 1). Thorensen's story is excellent in conception and execution. Jonathan Davis is a super-star reader. Put it all together and you might as well get used to saying "ssshhh, I'm listening to a story!" to everyone you know for a day or two.

One thing I really like about these books that I haven't seen mentioned in other reviews, is that each book thus far has a natural conclusion to its part of the tale. I find cliffhangers annoying but this and the first book both have a satisfying conclusion while leaving the story open for development. I feel like Thorensen respects his readers -- he certainly doesn't need the cliffhanger gimmick to get people to read the next installment. The stories are flat out great.

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Gripping. Refreshing ratio of sci-fi to fantasy!

Gripping. Can't wait for the third book to come to Audible. Finished Book 2 in less than 2 days. I'm legitimately bummed that I started listening before this whole series is out on audible, because now I'm counting the days until the next release. The narrator takes an enthralling story and delivers a performance that reaffirms my respect for those capable of this level of artful storytelling. I really got a sense of anticipation and fear, sadness and joy. There were moments that gave me chills. I laughed out loud. Really interesting story and the narrator is perfectly suited to the books. If it wasn't already apparent, I strongly recommend this book, esp. if you're looking for that perfect ratio of sci-fi to fantasy.

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