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  • When Ideology Meets Reality
  • By: Helen Joyce
  • Narrated by: Helen Joyce
  • Length: 10 hrs and 32 mins
  • 4.8 out of 5 stars (154 ratings)

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The instant Sunday Times best seller

"An intelligent, thorough rejoinder to an idea that has swept across much of the liberal world seemingly overnight. Even those outraged by Joyce’s positions would benefit from understanding them.... Open conversation about such fraught issues is the only realistic path forward." (Jesse Singal, The New York Times)

"This rigorous and brave book nails the absurd idea that sex is just a 'social construct'." (David Aaronovitch, The Times)

Gender identity ideology is about more than Twitter storms and using the right pronouns. In just 10 years, laws, company policies, school and university curricula, sport, medical protocols, and the media have been reshaped to privilege self-declared gender identity over biological sex.

People are being shamed and silenced for attempting to understand the consequences of redefining "man" and "woman". While compassion for transgender lives is well-intentioned, it is stifling much-needed inquiry into the significance of our bodies.

If we recommit to our liberal values of freedom of belief, freedom of speech, and robust debate, we scan de-escalate this most vicious of culture wars.

©2021 Helen Joyce (P)2021 Oneworld Publications
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Critic Reviews

"An intelligent, thorough rejoinder to an idea that has swept across much of the liberal world seemingly overnight. Even those outraged by Joyce’s positions would benefit from understanding them.... Open conversation about such fraught issues is the only realistic path forward." (Jesse Singal, The New York Times)

"This rigorous and brave book nails the absurd idea that sex is just a 'social construct'." (David Aaronovitch, The Times)

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rational, clear criticism of trans ideology

This is not anti-trans. It argues that trans women will have to accept certain "restrictions" (women only places -- changing rooms, women shelters, prisons, and sports). Otherwise, it accepts trans rights.

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I commend Helen Joyce for her bravery in speaking up.

Overall, this book is well researched and well written. Helen Joyce tackled an absolute minefield of a topic in a way that balances being respectful with being honest and direct.
Highly recommend!

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Thoughtful author and should be considered

This is a well organized and thoughtful book by an accomplished woman who does hold a strongly feminist perspective. It is yet another example of what we need, more high quality discussion of these issues and more free and open assessment of how we arrived in our current situation.

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A must-listen for all

Incredible. I wish everyone I know would listen to this important book. Along with Abigail Shrier's _Irreversible Damage_, Helen Joyce's book has crystalized my unease with gender identity ideology into a coherent understandingvof the history of how we got here and the consequences of where we find ourselves. As a US university professor of the humanities, I am now more knowledgable about the gender identity ideology that permeates my workplace and am empowered to figure out my own beliefs about sex and gender outside the ideology that I'm being fed at work and in my "left" media diet. I can't recommend this well-researched and -written book highly enough. And it's such a delight to have the author read it. Joyce has a lovely voice and a nautral, not performative, reading style and is much, much better than many professional audiobook readers! I was sad when the book ended, which is not something I can always say at the end of an audiibook. In interviews, I've heard Joyce explain the hurdles in the publishing industry that she had to clear to get the book into print through a reputable publishing house AND the fact that no audio book agency would pick up the audio rights. Her son helped her record this book. Congrats to both. And a huge "thanks."

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Excellent content

Interesting presentation of historical and current issues related to gender identity and its effects on our society. My only complaint is that the audio could have been better quality. Overall, I would highly recommend.

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So necessarily!

This 2021 book is a cogent, rational, and humane discussion of the very serious implications and current effects for non-trans women and girls of Gender Identity Ideology. That rigid political stance is an effort quite distinct from a necessary transgender rights movement and struggles for survival. I see pitfalls in this book--relevant arguments and positions that would add relevant nuance to multiple stories of self-identified trans women who have violated non-trans women in various venues. This is a necessary addition to a much needed public conversation free of vitriol and violence. If we fail to engage constructively, females raised to be girls and women (because they are female) will be increasingly stigmatized, dismissed as "transphobic" in society and law, and coerced to do what patriarchy expects of them: not put their own political interests first and instead be deferential and aquiescent when challenged. This pairs well with Kathleen Stock's book, Material Girls (2021).

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Thoughtful and fair

Good information, well cited, kind, compassionate, logical, and honest. Worth the read for all people who care about inclusion AND fairness.

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Must read

If you’re confused as hell about what’s going on with this movement and what it really means in reality, I highly recommend it. As a caution, it is very graphic in some parts for necessary reasons, so reader beware.

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An informative, sobering analysis of gender ideology.

If you’re like most people who aren’t bigoted but wonder why suddenly it’s taboo to acknowledge any distinction between trans and biological women, this book explain the background of these fast emerging politics and it’s consequences. 2 + 2 does not equal 5 and biological sex is real with real consequence.

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Brave, feminist presenting scientific evidence!

Amazing, evidence-based brilliant nonfiction on the dangers for women and girls rights, the rights and welfare of children, and LGB people of this gender identity ideology. As a bisexual woman, who had many years as an adolescent (15 years ago) of suffering, including eating disorder, substance abuse, & self-harm, I believe if I'd had the identical issues growing up today, I would be told that my pain would be magically fixed by transitioning. I know that this wouldn't have fixed a thing, and I'm a proud feminist and have learned to feel okay in my own skin. As a result, I am deeply concerned about this issue and how it will impact the troubled teens of today, as a former troubled teen. I am deeply concerned about how this issue adversely impacts my rights as a bisexual and as a woman. This book is filled with hard evidence of the insanity of an ideology that insists on being superior to scientific facts and biology, & how damaging it is to tell people that gender identity is the route to optimal mental health when it means sterility & sexual dysfunction. Don't be fooled by extremists who bash the author or the facts she presents- she is no bigot, she's not "transphobic" - Helen Joyce is a hero who I believe 15-20 years from now, will be regarded as a courageous whistle-blower and truth teller. Read the facts she presents and decide for yourself. If I could give this book 10 stars, I would.

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  • 11-08-21

Bravely highlighting the danger of trans activism

Helen explores the roots of the trans cult and shows it for the homophobic, sexist, regressive ideology that it is.

She presents all issues clearly and the book narrated in a way that is so comfortable to listen to.

I urge everyone who cares about gender nonconforming and gay children, and women's rights, to read and share this book.

I thank Helen Joyce for her bravery in standing up to protect women, children and gender nonconforming people, from this harmful gender religion.

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  • goldenzozza
  • 11-14-21

Just excellent

This is an excellent book. If you are interested in the growing debate around Self ID and the affects this will have on the rights of women and children, this is a really well balanced, clearly presented exploration of the history of how the trans movement gained so much ground under the radar and how this is now impacting other groups in policy, law, education, and healthcare.

Helen Joyce is a balanced voice in this debate. She is respectful to trans people's needs, she uses inclusive and tolerant language, yet she is clear for the need for the realities of the end goals of queer theory and gender ideology being the removal of sex as a measure of worth in our society, and why this would be against the interests of many other minority groups.

It's a great overview. Easy to understand, easy to digest- this is the mark of a great author. Joyce is able to disseminate what could be complicated ideas and language and explains it with no confusing terms for the pay person. Thank you.

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  • Tim Rogers
  • 03-15-22

Who could possibly object to trans rights?

Who could possibly object to a movement driven by compassion for our fellow human beings? Not me! Especially for those of us who have grown up supporting feminism and gay rights. 

Although anyone who has spent time on social media very quickly realises that discussions on Transgender Rights can get a bit ‘heated’, surely anyone who disagrees with the claim that ‘trans women are women’ are the usual social media bigots. The trouble is, the closer you look, the more you realise that this is not the case and that the claims of trans rights activists start to make less and less sense. 

Assertions like the trans rights movement is no different from the civil rights movements seem ridiculous when you understand what is being demanded. When you begin to consider the implications of self ID for women-only services and spaces, women’s sports, the safeguarding of vulnerable young people from irreversible medical interventions, and even the implications for gay rights, red flags start to appear. When you realise how the demands of the trans rights activists are rushed into law with no consideration for the rights of others, alarms start to go off.

This book examines these things in a considered respectful way. It looks at the ideological and cultural origins of the trans-rights movement, how social media has amplified the message for the TikTok generation and how any doubt or descent is instantly crushed or labelled as bigoted or transphobic. 

Great narration by the author too. Recommended.

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  • Garfield Braithwaite
  • 11-08-21

An important and timely book

Thank you so much for this tightly argued reasonable book. I can't recommend it highly enough

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  • Bookworm
  • 11-08-21

fantastic book and beautifully read

This book is very well researched and written, and gives a very clear account of the current situation. It is vital reading for all women.
It is read beautifully and clearly by the author.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 11-06-21

Trans- ideology vs reality

Very interesting, careful documentarion, very good analytical skills, exceptionally interesting history of ideas. Too bad only a few people will read this rationally

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  • Sam S.
  • 01-03-22

A really well presented and thought out analysis.

I found this book really helpful in outlining many of the current issues for consideration. A very useful book for anyone looking to examine this subject in a rounded context

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  • Florence
  • 11-21-21

A very well presented audiobook read by the author

A very clear and concise look at Transgender ideology. Joyce is empathetic and dignified as she uses steady logic and a firm basis in the facts of reality to unpick a potentially dangerous and illogical belief system.

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  • spaced_rocket
  • 05-10-22

reasonably argued but flawed

Joyce unabashedly puts forward her case for her opposition to self identification from an old school lens with a salient objection to gendered stereotypes as a basis for some trans identification. However, her own world view is heavily predicated upon negative stereotypes of men and her political opposites. When political tribalism and mischaracterisation are chief problems of our age she correctly points to phenomena like Preference Falsification and Pluralistic Ignorance whilst inadvertently demonstrating the latter

This takes away from her final analysis in the closing chapters as whilst she accurately describes how activism unfolds and captures institutions or quietens dissent but giving the impression she understands other people's objections or where common ground might lie.

All in all, it's a worthwhile read to understand an old school feminist take on gender ideology but you won't come away with a broader understanding of the topic.

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  • Geoff
  • 04-28-22

My first written review.

This is the first written review that I have left on Audible despite being a member since 2008 I think.

This seems to me to be a very important book. It is thoroughly compelling and well written. It has a genuinely important message and it has opened my eyes to things that I had been blind to. It is both alarming and also hopeful. I thoroughly wholeheartedly recommend this book to anyone who values freedom of conscience, fairness and critical thinking.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 02-20-22

Essential reading for anyone interested in the current discourse

This is a fantastic book that takes an evidence, research based approach to an important topic.

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  • Annabelle
  • 01-10-22

Excellent and thought provoking. A must read.

Well researched and balanced discussion. A must read for anyone thinking about this issue. Should be mandatory reading for politicians.

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  • Stuart L Weaver
  • 12-17-21

A timely book, persuasively argued

Joyce elegantly describes the problems of transgender ideology and provides entirely unique insights as to its many problems.

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 11-10-21

An eye ooener

A well researched account of the affect gender ideology has had on western society, particularly in the UK

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  • Anonymous User
  • 11-08-21

A thoughtful take on gender ideology

This is an interesting & respectful look at trans gender ideology & it’s real world impact on other groups & their rights. I love a book read by the author and Helen Joyce’s calm reading made some of the more confronting elements easier to listen to.

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  • cornutnut
  • 07-20-22

Necessary read for our times

A very comprehensive brilliant treatise to explain a current bizarre and threatening phenomenon. Explained simply.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 03-22-22

Much needed

A great and much needed review of gender identity ideology
My only issues are with the use of preferred pronouns which makes it confusing at points. Men and males referred to as she is a bit weird.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 03-16-22

Clarity and insight

Joyce offers a thorough sweep of the underpinnings and evolution of today’s radical trans activism. Besides it’s history she shines a light on the considerations of others who may be affected by policy and legislation enacted without their consultation. If you’ve ever wondered how on earth did it come to this, quickly followed by what can we do now, this is a brilliant book and it’s for you.